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    Posted: 25 Nov 2009 at 12:44pm
Small pitted fragment found in October 2009, at the Fleet beach, Wyke, Weymouth,Dorset. From the Corallian. Is it croc skin/plant bark or?
 
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turtle?


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I,m assuming here that the Formation that is was found in gives it away, from the Coralian, It is a piece of coral mate.
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Hi
thx for brilliantly quick replies.
The scale is in mm by the way.

Turtle seems a good idea, I'v not seen turtle skin before.
Despite "Corallian" rocks, corals aren't usually found here. However.you never know and it might be...........
Thx for all help. Would welcome further info                             Cheers Heath
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here is a piece of turtle carapace from the IOW Wealden beds (Cretaceous)

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Thanks again ophthalmosaur Paul for putting up the turtle carapace photo. It certainly looks similar, the pits being markedly smooth around the edges, not sharp/grainy like coral holes. I shall conclude Turtle carapace though I'd no idea they were found here. (Weymouth. Corallian)

I have seen croc skin before, but this fragment is smaller with rounder,more regular holes/pits

Very helpful               Heath


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Hi Paul,
 
do you have an id for your turtle carapace? I've not seen one with raised 'pimples' like that before.


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No, Bill I'm afraid not. Will have to take it in to Steve Hutt next time I visit. Maybe its something else but definitely not Goniopholis. Its strange since some of the surface shows depressions as per the normal turtle shell but elsewhere it has the 'pimples'.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote llasa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 9:22pm
Hi,
 
I have just found a couple of very small bits exactly the same in my Oxford clay matrix from the Cotswolds, yes I am still going through it. Confused hope to take a photo and send off to my friend in NHM, certainly does not look like any turtle I have seen or croc for that matter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote llasa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 2009 at 9:23pm
Me again,
 
Just had a thought could it be a fish palate of some kind??
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Interesting to read all this debate!
It looks like my original posting is turtle carapace.
My fragment isn't fish palate.
I hope to see the results of further enquiries on Llasa and Paul's specimens. Fascinating stuff!
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Paul i agree with Janet for your bit.
Heath i have similar bits to yours, my thoughts are either coral or sponge imprints.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pete g Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Nov 2009 at 9:49pm
Hi Dave
I agree mate its a fragment of coral, from the corillian. I,ve a couple of pieces of this. It would be nice if it was croc or turtle though.
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Over christmas I'v been looking up other possibilities for "CROC SKIN"
(i) turtles and sea tortoises ARE found in Kimmeridge Clay of Weymouth area, so turtle carapace still possible
(2)It could also be crab carapace ?
(3) it might be AMMONITE EGGS, imprints of, they are the right size, half-1mm. These are also now recognised and even fairly common in Kimmeridge Clay of this area. Ian West's website    Kimmeridge Clay Fossils  and ref Steve Etches research. I'll try and get the fragment identified and feedback here, because others of you have similar specimens.
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