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Welshy
Cheers Posh Beaver hope to find a complete one of the Protogrammoceras paltum :)
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On the back of this one was this tiny shell
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Few other ammo bits but gona skip to my favourite find of the day.
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One side has this ammo I didn't notice till I got it home & cleaned the mud off.
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The other side has this less complete & less discrete ammo plus another bit of ammo but has a couple of curious bits too like the dark bit near my finger fish tooth maybe?
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& then there's this brown bit is it part of the ammo?
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Welshy,
 

just a couple of tips.

 

First have a read of this,

 


 

Second.

It is also easy to add more than one picture per post as well as adding text to a picture giving details of said picture, simply hit the return/enter key twice (gives a bit of space between pics) and add new pic or type in text.
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Thank you P King Chef duely noted :) Though the link one specimen per topic,i would think people would get annoyed if I posted lots of individual threads with ammo fragments on. They're all ammo's & all from same location, so thought it would be ok. Edited by Welshy 2014-08-07 08:25:27
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Hi Welshy
If you tell us what that location is maybe someone can id your finds
They look Toarcian - Aalenian ammos to me, but...
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Burton Dasset, Warwickshire on this trail just above the exposed marlstone :)
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Hello Welshy

The first few pictures do look like a specimen of a ammonite I have i.d as Protigrammoceras paltum from the Marlstone of the Tilton Railway Cutting. It is a rare as far as a know but is related to the Harpoceras ammos from the Whitby Mudstone Formation. The Whitby Mudstone is present in the midlands but I am not sure if it is in your area. The species Harpoceras serpentinum is the most common type in the midlands Whitby.

The Dacs do look they are from the very top of the Marlstone and are Orthodactylites semicelaum if they are. They are from the same level as the famous Tiltoniceras antiquum ammos and mark the end of the Marlstone before the Whitby Mudstone took over.

Hope that helps and here a picture (sorry about the quality I am getting better at it) of one of my Carboniferous brachiopods. It is a Dictyoclostus semireticulatus. A strophomenid brachiopod from the Lower Carboniferous limestone of the Castleton area.

Good finds you seem to have a knack of finding ammos 

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Just to continue my last post here are ammonites from the Tilton Railway cutting. Hope it helps with your i.ds Welshy.

The ammo on the left is Tiltoniceras antiquum. It is the zone ammonite for the top of the Marlstone in the midlands but can be found in the Lower Toarcian of North Yorkshire and Germany. The one on the right I think is Protogrammoceras paltum and is the only one I have found. It is similar your fragments in your posts.

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No problems Welshy. The Protorammoceras marked the incoming of the Harpoceras that dominated the 'Jet' rock of the Yorkshire coast and they are related to the Tiltoniceras. They are part of the Hildoceratidae family that includes the Hildoceras type. The palaeontographical society did two  books on them (part 1 and part 2 - the blue ones). Worth getting if you can find them. The title is The ammonite family Hildoceratidae in the lower Jurassic of Great Britain.

I have posted the two types of brachiopod from my collection found in the Marlstone. They are the green ones form Tilton.

On the left is the Tetrahynchia tetraedra you have found and on the right is the terebratulid Lobothyris punctata.

Look forward to seeing more of your finds

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Thanks Posh Beaver I do have lots of both those types of shell plus just found a few interesting pieces but will have to wait for pics as have smashed the screen on my phone :(
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Thank you Posh Beaver have found both those types of shell including loose & groups in host rock & some mixed lots containing both. Just found this tiny fella which is a 1st for me up the hills :) Edited by Welshy 2014-08-14 21:57:46
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