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Had been stuck in work and further studies for a while so I decided to visit the areas that I was itching to go. There should be enough shark tooth to find as you can see by fossilss's finding 200+ teeth and me around the same as well(although most of them are broken).

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Fossil hunter
Visited Herne bay at low tide yesterday. Here's some pictures of the site and my finds.
Herne bay looking towards Reculver.
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As found shark tooth
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My finds. Most of tooth are damaged.
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Thanks for watching!

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schming2001
Good haul! Looks like it was nice and productive!
Joe
Fossils are great.
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Fossil hunter
Thanks! Yes, it was quite a productive day for shark tooth.
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Fossil hunter
Some of the better preserved shark tooth and one fish vertebrae.
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Fossil hunter
Some finds from Herne bay. The fast incoming tide restricted the collecting time but managed to find some shark tooth.
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Bill G

Nice finds
Cheers, Bill
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Fossil hunter
Thank you. The Thanet bed seemed to be well exposed to the East with some pyritised examples of Arctica sp etc.
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Fossil hunter
Some of the better finds from yesterday. There were about 6-7 other people already on the foreshore collecting shark tooth when I arrived. The wind was quite chilly and my hands were freezing when it started to briefly rain.
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Hyptodus sp ?
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Fish tooth Eutrichiurides sp ?
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ID?? 
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ID ??
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Any help on the ID of the specimens much appreciated.
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Phileas fossilis
Hi there. That last pic is a pretty rare Synechodus eocaenus Leriche, 1902. and a lovely one at that. I can't remember the species name but there's a clue. The big one is a Carcarias hopei and the rest look like Odontaspis winkleri. I don't know for sure about the fish tooth though.
I miss hunting at Herne Bay!


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Fossil hunter
Thank you Phileas fossilis for the IDs! 
Googled the image of Synechodus eocaenus,is this the same as Paraorthacodus eocaenus but reclassified as S.eocaenus?
Regarding the fish tooht,I do not have a macro lens to take a close up picture but it has a paired tiny barb like structure on the point of it.

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Paleoworld-101
Awesome haul. Lots of complete teeth which is great. The last tooth with multiple side cusps is fantastic. Speaking from past experience, i bet it was hard to pick up some of those off the pebbles and clay with frozen fingers :D






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Fossil hunter
Thanks Paleoworld.
I guess it was worth to endure the cold and rain as I have never found a Synechodus shark tooth in the past. 
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Phileas fossilis

You are very welcome. As far as I can tell they are synonymous but I don't know which is the most recent name but seems to be Paraorthacodus

Interesting about the fish tooth. I hope you get an ID soon

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Fossil hunter
Thank you.
I have tried scanning the fish tooth with a flat head scanner to see if this gives a better image.
Still quite a poor resolution though.
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barbarasaurus
You got some nice sharks teeth at Herne Bay on Saturday.  I'm sorry that I can't help you with ID.  I was there with some Kent residents who were interested in the Natural History of the area.  We only found some common sharks teeth.  Perhaps you are in this picture.

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I picked up a lump of Thanet sand packed with bivalves and a couple of gastropods.
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plagistoma

If you struggle with macro shots like me i take a photo with a magnifying lens or a jewellers loupe over my camera lens.
 
steve
It's always great to "shoot" your own
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Fossil hunter
Hi,Barbarasaurus.
I think I was searching a bit more West to where you were. The Corbula nest bed is well exposed towards the East(towards Reculver) and I have seen similar bivalve blocks such as yours around that area. Pyritic Cobula bivalves are quite common with fossil plant material but less shark teeth.
Holmes(1981) Geological survey shows the typical findings for each formation. Travelling towards the West(towards Beltinge), there is a 3 degrees dip of the beds with the younger beds overlying the Thanet formation coming to beach level. The beds particularly rich in shark teeth is the basement bed of Woolwich and Reading formation so this is where I mainly try to look for shark teeth.
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REFERENCE
Holmes, S.C.A. (1981) The Geology of the Country around Faversham (Sheet 273). Memoirs of
the Geological Survey of Great Britain, HMSO, London, 117 pp.

Thanks for the advice for macro shots plagistoma. I have ordered a ƒâ€š‚£12.00 macro lens adaptor from Amazon which can go on my camera and will see if this works better for close up macro shots.

  

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Paleoworld-101
I too came across that figure in this paper- http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/pdf/gcrdb/GCRsiteaccount2911.pdf
If anyone hasn't seen it, there is a good list of the different species of sharks and other fish found in the formations in the figure above. 

Though I wonder why Notidanodon is listed in the earliest Eocene 'Woolwich Bottom Beds', information i read elsewhere all suggests the genus became extinct in the Paleocene which is why i assumed all Notidanodon fossils at Herne Bay must come from the Thanet Formation, which is the only Paleocene aged rock unit at the location, correct? 




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Fossil hunter
Yes,
This site also shows Notidanodon from the middle Thanetian in France.
I think since the Woolwich Bottom Beds is at the junction of the Upper Thanet formation it is still possible to find Notidanodon(because it may be actually derived from the underlying I bed in the above figure becoming loose in the J bed).
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Paleoworld-101
The Notidanodon i recently found came loose out of the same pale-yellowy clay opposite the access point that most of the other shark teeth come from, definitely not that brownish Thanet Sand you posted a picture of earlier, so i think you are probably right. Thanks. 
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barbarasaurus
Hi Fossil Hunter, thank you for posting the stratigraphic column for this area.  I visited the Thanet sands near Bishopstone Glen a few years ago and found some bivalves.  The internal casts are pyritised and some of the shells are still present.  I think that they are artica.
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Fossil hunter
Hi,Barbarasaurus.
Yes, I think most of those bivalves are Arctica sp. The middle one on the bottom row could be Corbula regulbiensis as it has a more enlongated appearance.
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barbarasaurus
Hi Fossil hunter Thank you for your ID.  Here is a better image of some of the bivalves (Arctica sp.) unfortunately their shells are very friable and tend to flake off.

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Fossil hunter
Visited Herne Bay at low tide this morning. There were already about 15 people collecting at the foreshore when I arrived at 7:30am.
Here's my finds today.Most are broken shark tooth,I managed to find three nice ray tooth bars and a small fish vertebrae as well.
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Fossil hunter
Two shark teeth as found11080902_679348438855123_7342431284422811686_n.jpg 

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Tornado MC
That is a nice haul  Fossil Hunter - however, i went for quality, not quantity this weekend (see my tooth from Barton (naish farm end) Highcliffe)

Interesting report on Sheppey. I was there 3 weeks ago and went to the minster end too and didn't find much either. Some nice white pyrite (marcasite) through. Was tempted to go to Herne instead, but the weather was very iffy and it was a few more miles than i had time to fit in.

Another time, but its definitely on my agenda this year.

Mark


Mark - Verwood, Dorset
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Fossil hunter
Thanks Tordado MC.
That's a nice sized Striatolamia tooth from Highcliffe. Remember to visit Herne bay on a very low tide and as most productive beds are at the far foreshore(usually there would be people already collecting there so you would know).
I was hoping to find Otodus shark teeth at Minster as I found a couple in the past but I am happy with the crab nodule. Sheppey is a bit difficult as there are so many places to look and the stretch of coast is long so I guess concentrating on one particular area which is productive might be better.

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Fossil hunter
I am pleased that I found the rare Synechodus eocaenus shark tooth again although the lateral cusps are missing on one side.
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Fossil hunter
Close up of the fish tooth from the last visit.The image is a bit soft but this is the best I could manage.
You can notice the barb like structure on the tip of the tooth.
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Fossil hunter
Some of the better preserved shark tooth from yesterday.
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barbarasaurus
Thanks for posting your Herne Bay finds.  I went there yesterday, Monday 23rd March.  Whilst the tide wasn't the lowest of the year the slightly offshore breeze and highish pressure made conditions pretty good (better than February's low tide when the onshore wind lumped the sea up the beach).

I went to look at the artica beds but there was a lot of sand obscuring them.  There was a man collecting from a glauconitic sandy bed, in the main sharks teeth collecting area.  He looks for tiny sharks teeth having sieved and treated the sand.  The specimen below was collected in situ and had tiny bivalves scattered in the sand.  The sand is like caster sugar and has lots of dark grains (the glauconite?).  The monster sized bivalve below was collected loose on the beach.

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Fossil hunter
Wow,that's a huge bivalve. I have never tried sieving for shark teeth but I guess there are a lot of them in the fish beds.
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fossilsss
Amazing finds guys . Herne Bay seemed to be pretty good on Sunday picked up around 200 teeth, sadly most were incomplete .
fossils, in a big world
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Fossil hunter
Thanks fossilsss. Did you find anything interesting?
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fossilsss
Partially complete ray pallet ( three rows ) , partial Notidanodon  ,  a few Palaeohypotodus rutoti, Hypotodus robustus,hypotodus verticalis , S. teretidens and a load of striatolamia macrota etc .

Will post picks if i can find my camera .
fossils, in a big world
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Fossil hunter
Would love to see some photos. 
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Tornado MC

Thanks for the tips - I suspect I will get back up that way in June/July, as we take our dog back to the breeder for a hair cut etc.
 
I see you have been busy again.... will there be any teeth left when I get the chance to explore the beach
Mark - Verwood, Dorset
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Fossil hunter
Some finds from Herne Bay.
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