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Bow1980
Wow, in the pouring rain as well? I presume that your plesi stuff was from a recent fall rather from being down at the low tide mark. You will have to get some pics up before your mate starts prepping.
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fossily99
Hello Guys,

Been to lavernock a few times myself, never had any bone but plagistoma and ammonites. Just a couple of questions for you. I have been looking back through this thread (Amazing stuff!) and have seen some rhaetic bits that you've said you found at St Mary's Well Bay, as far as i'm aware there is no rhaetic at st mary's correct, if so how come that was found there?

Also straight down from lavernock point heading both ways you find the verts? Is the shale at st mary's covered in mud as i know it was at one point?

Cheers,

Joe

"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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plagistoma
Hi Joe
The Rhaetic stuff is from the Penarth end not St marys well, you can find bone in the Rhaetic and jurassic at penarth both sides of the pier and until you hit the red sandstone heading towards Lavernock. At lavernock bone does come from the cliff but not too often its more likely found in the shales on the beach or brought up out of the channel,St Marys Well produces out of the shales and there is a layer under the old slipway that can produce bone(can't remember if that bit is actualy Rhaetic).  The shale is more often than not covered in mud and sand but you do get the odd days when it does clear off but there is no pattern to this.

 

steve
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Bow1980
Heres a paddle bone that I finished off yesterday
 

 

Before

 


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After

 

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TqB
Nice bone, neat prepping. How hard is the matrix and what do you use?
Thanks,
Tarquin
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Welsh Wizard
I went to Llantwit Major last week to visit my parents and thought I'd pop over to Lavernock Point for a couple of hours. I've been going there for the best part of thirty years and never seem to find anything of note but this time I managed to pick up a couple of interesting pieces, although nothing as dramatic as Bow and Plagistoma find.

 

A nautilus although I'm not sure what to do with it (whether to leave as is or grind and polish) and any advice would be appreciated?

 

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A partial ichthyosaur vert

 

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And I'm not sure if this is bone or a piece of wood but hopefully someone can help identify.

 

One side of rock:

 

[attach:fileid=http://www.discussfossils.com/forum/uploads/1415/Bone1.JPG]

 

Other side of rock:

 

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Thanks for looking.

 

Nick
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't, then you're probably right".......Henry Ford
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Bow1980
Nick, the Nautilus is a good find, I don't believe they are very common, the last item is wood sorry.


 

TQB - The matrix is very hard, normally i just use an eletric engraver, but for this one i tried something a little different. I used a rotary tool to grind away most of the matrix and then just let some tesco distilled vinegar work its magic over 2 weeks. 
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Bow1980
Couple of todays finds:
 

Ichthyosaur verts

 

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Coprolite

 

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plagistoma
Some pics of the Plesi bits that i found,have no idea what we are going to do with it yet,whether it will all fit back together or prep the best bits or chuck it back on the beach as too much hard work lol. At the moment it will probably be put to one side untill other projects are finished.
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side 1 of large block

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side 2

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side 3

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side 1 of largest block

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side 2

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side 3

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side 4 is blank

close up

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steve
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plagistoma
Hi Fosily99
I have checked and there is Rhaetic at St Marys Well Bay in the cliff and in some of the layers on the beach (more often than not covered in sand and mud).

 

steve
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fossily99
Hi Steve, Thanks for clearing that up, i was just wondering as it didn't say on the internet.

Was this fantastic plesi block found in amongst the shale?

Joe

"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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plagistoma
No, came from the cliff near St Marys Well.
 

steve
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fossily99
Near where that bridge thing is that has a small old fall around it?

Joe

"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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plagistoma
I won't say exactly where as there may be a bit more to come, i'm assuming that the bridge your refering to is the patio fence of a caravan on the site above.
 

steve
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fossily99
Yes I do believe it is the patio thing, couldn't quite remember what it was, haven't been for a while!

Of course, hope you can find the rest of it!

Joe



"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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plagistoma
I think i have the major part of it but i think i found a couple of broken verts from it last year and left them on the beach.
 

steve
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fossily99
Ok Steve, shame that. Perphaps it is quite a large partial/complete specimen. On my next trip there if i find any plesi bits similar i'll take them back, maybe then i could give you them so you can recover as much of the specimen as possible.

If you find any unwanted bone in the future whatever quality at lavernock/penarth/st mary's maybe you could PM me the location, only if you were happy too.

Cheers,

Joe

"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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plagistoma
There are no skull parts that i can see which is a pity as i was hoping for my 1st plesi skull, sigh!
 

steve
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fossily99
Unlucky it's still a great and extremely rare find!

Joe

"The only true wisdom is in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates
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Tabfish

Nice find Steve, well done.


Tabfish 

Tabfish at the Waterside
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TqB
Great stuff Steve, looks like quite a prepping challenge.
Tarquin
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Naze Dave
Hi Steve, looks like an interesting project, good luck.
Thanks
Dave
Still Life
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rocktapper
Hi Steve,thats got to be worth spending some time on. Most of us are very lucky if we find a plesi vert or rib.Great findThumbs Up.
 

                                     Cheers

                                           Mark
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plagistoma
Tried Lavernock for the low tide today,weatherman said sunny and warm what a liar- there were polar bears floating past on icebergs and wind making it hard to stand up lol.
Managed to find a double ichy vert and some good Plagiostoma.

[attach:fileid=http://www.discussfossils.com/forum/uploads/1064/bone_02.jpg]

 

nice double sided Plagiostoma

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steve
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rocktapper
good stuff Steve. if you are like me,you never get tired of finding verts.
 

                                                          cheers

                                                                 Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Tabfish
Almost booked two days off work but going by today I am glad I did not.
 

Tabfish
Tabfish at the Waterside
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Bow1980
Couple of finds from last weekend
 

Coprolite

 

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Paddle bone? surface is flat so don't believe its a vert, hole in the center possible bite mark?

 

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Unknown Bone

 

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TqB
Nice bones, I think you're right about paddle bone and they often show a hole in the centre.
 

Cheers,
Tarquin
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plagistoma
Nice finds,beats my couple of scruffy Plagiostoma from yesterday.
 

steve
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plagistoma
Couple of days off work and a nice sunny day so tried Lavernock,disapointing day just a couple of iffy Plagiostoma but my mate did find a large Ichy vert not the best as it is "rotting" around the edges but very big
 

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side view

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steve.
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Bow1980
Steve, thats a whopping sized vert. Looks similar sized (and condition) to the half vert that I found near the sea defences towards Penarth a few months back. Would be great if theres more of it ready to fall out of the cliff.
 

On saturday I managed to pick up two more paddle bones and a vert, so not bad

 
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Bow1980
last weeks finds.
 

Paddle bones and a tooth

 

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Theres a vert hidden in there

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plagistoma
Couple of hours down the beach yesterday,managed a couple of imperfect Plagiostoma and one double,i also beat my mate 7-4 on the fishing weight finds.Tide went out further than we thought it would but it was calm so everything covered in slimy mud.
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steve
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Naze Dave
Nice stuff Steve, i love those bivalves, how common/scarce are they?
Thanks
Dave
Still Life
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plagistoma
Hi Dave
They are fairly common but most shatter when they hit the beach or are in conglomerate that is impossible to prep,i probably pick up one for every 200 i discard.

 

steve
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Bow1980
Noticed lots of largeish falls between Lavernock and Penarth but unfortunately zero fossils in there.
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Naze Dave
1 in 200, blimey, are they preserved as moulds or as mineralised shells?
Thanks
Dave
Still Life
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plagistoma
Usually black or dark brown mineralised shells.
 

steve
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Bow1980
Couple of finds from over Christmas
 

Some Partial Plesi Verts and odd bits of bone

 

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Ichthyosaur verts + paddle bones and bit of Triassic bone

 

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cabby
Hi Bowman1980......nice finds, did you polish them?Thanks for showing.
 Cheers Cabby
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Bow1980
Hi Cabby, Yes, these were my first attempts at hand polishing.
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Bow1980
Crazy amount of broken Triassic bone at low tide today, in a 2mx1m patch there must have been well over 100 pieces, never seen so much.


 

Picked up some other interesting bits including a starfish.

 

Pics to follow when I get a chance
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plagistoma
Hi Bow
would be interested in seeing the pics especially the starfish as the book says there is a starfish bed there but have never seen even a piece of one in 20 years.

 

steve
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plagistoma
Had a good go at Lavernock over the weekend and low tides Monday and Tuesday,Saturday was a bust hardly finding anything to pick up,Monday at extreem low tide managed to find five Plesi verts ranging from 50p size to nearly 3 inches plus some odds and ends of rib.Today tide not so low managed one Plesi and one Ichy vert plus a nice Plagiostoma and a gastropod,fishing weight finds over the 3 days was 80+ lol.Also picked up a Nautilus which may or not be there (still buried in matrix). Did not take picks of Mondays verts as they were covered in matrix and weed.
 

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second shell not quite all there

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steve
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Bow1980
Looks like you had a good haul Steve, I didn't see any verts anywhere at low tide, just broken rib bones. Saw a stunning ichthy tooth complete with the root, but the tide came in before i could start to extract it.




 

Finds from a few weeks ago.

 

Ichthyosaur Femur, the back part of it was really rotten.

 

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Neural Arch and vert

 

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Small Ichthy vert, partial paddle bone and a bit of Plesi rib? from the mini cliff at St Marys Well Bay

 

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Bow1980
Sundays finds.
 

Starfish from the shales at St Marys Well Bay. 2 Broken tentacles on the bottom left.

 

 

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One enormous sized rib, most still hidden

 

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Teeth

 

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Ribs and Large shark fin spin from the low tide bit

 

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I also have 2 other items of bone that im working on. One is possibly a rib, but the 2 attachments that would fit on a vert are unusual, so i'm not sure. Another one could be Plesi, croc or possibly dino, more investigation with the pen is required first.

 

 
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Naze Dave
Lovely fossils both of you, that brittlestar is a real beauty.
Thanks
Dave
Still Life
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Bow1980
Some more stuff
 

Ichthyosaur Rib

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Small Ichthyosaur humerus/femur with paddle bones

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plagistoma
Nice bits there Bow,you're doing well with the bone.
 

steve
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Bow1980

Whats left of an Ichthyosaur Jaw, found at Lavernock point, only a tiny bit was showing at the time so thinking i had found possibly a skull I didn't want to trim the block down, so I struggled and took a slab of shale home (1mx30cmx5cm) and this is all that was in there LOLLOL


 

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Random bone from the shale, possibly an Illium?

 

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