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Jurassic Jim
Forgot to mention,  I also had cling-film wrapped around the out side of the towel.  The shale blocks were on a dinner tray, covered with a damp towel and wrapped in cling-film.  As Elbert says, it can take a while.
James
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adam.morris08
I found most of a fish in soft shale today and as it's the first I've found and not very common I would like to try and preserve it.

Any tips?



Cheers
Adam
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Doggerfan
I'd just have a careful go at the positive side first with scalpels and needles. If the plate isn't thick enough, you can mount a thicker piece underneath beforehand using epoxy glue.
Best wishes from the Lake of Constance. Roger.
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Elbert
Hello, you could glue both slabs back together and prep it from it`s best side; as you say fish is not that common; where did you find it?
It looks a bit like green river fish, but with green matrix.
If it is lower Toarcien, it may well be Leptolepis sp.

 

greetings, Bert
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adam.morris08
I have no idea when it comes to fish :(

I found it on Monmouth beach. One of the beaches at Lyme Regis.

I will take it to paddy at Lyme fossil workshop and see what he says, bug until then is there anything I can do to stop the shale deteriorating?

Cheers
Adam
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adam.morris08
That species fits with the Jurassic locality though :)
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Doggerfan
Bert is right. I wasn't thinking right as I made my comment. It's definitely best to glue the 2 pieces back together since bits of the fish are in both of them.
Best wishes from the Lake of Constance. Roger.
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firlands


Hi Adam, nice find I love finding fish but they are very frustrating because they damage so easily and you very rarely find them whole. Best to show Paddy and see what he thinks.

Don't let the shale dry out to quick, I have used cheap supper clue on these before as the cheap stuff tends to be weaker and a lot funnier. hope this helps.


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adam.morris08
Cheers guys.

I've emailed paddy, but I can't get over there will the weekend :(

For now I've splashed them with water and put them in a plastic bag. Hope that keeps them stable >_<
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jwarren
Hi Adam...whatever you do,don't put the 2 pieces back together on top of each other as you found them...i found a pholidophorus in the soft shale on monmouth last year,& placed the 2 pieces back together to take off the beach,& unfortunately lost most of the scales due to the 2 sections rubbing against each other...lesson learnt & haven't managed to find another since...

Great find though fella


Jason
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Jurassic Jim
Take a tea towel and wet it until damp, wringing out any excess water.  Place it over the top of the shale pieces and leave to sit.  You want to try and slow down the rate it dries out at and lessen the  rate of shrinkage (and problems) that can occur.

Check the towel and the fossils each day and gradually allow the everything to dry out.  If the towel feels dry, repeat the wetting process but with a little less water each time.  If you start to see the shale delaminate, in which case you can run some glue in the gaps between the layers to strengthen them again.  Eventually you should get to a point where things stabilise and settle down.

I did this with my partial dapedium after Paddy cleaned it off with a scalpel.  This fish itself began to lift from the shale as well due to the steady shrinkage, so glue had to be run underneath the scales as well to secure it back down, trimming the excess glue from around the edge so as not to look unsightly.  Due to the size of the block, this process took several weeks and copious amounts of glue, but the block is still going strong after 3 years now.  In fact, it's in the Fossil Workshop next to Paddy's partial ichthyosaur under the stairs for people to see.

dapedium1.jpg 

Good luck.
James
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Elbert

Hello, in the past I have succesfully dried wet shale by wrapping it in damp paper and putting it in a plastic bag, leaving it in a cool and dark place.
The drying process took several months...
 
greetings, Bert
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